Audio Systems: Speakers., infinity speaker, infinity primus


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I bought a new Sanyo tv & I do like it.The sound isn't bad but not the best.I have been looking at the Infinity Primus speakers.The 150 or the 360 model.Would you recommend one of these or some other Infinity speaker?Please give me the model number that you recommend.I also have a question about receivers.Some have 350,some 375,some 500 watts and more.What would you recommend here?What else should I look for in a receiver?Thanks for all the help you have given me!
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You write that you like the Onkyo receiver.What is the Onkyo model number that you like?Thanks!
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I am not a serious listener.Don't care about the bass sound.I do want a realistic reproduction of sound.I do have some money to work with.Please send make & model numbers of what you think I should get.Thanks!
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I will be listening a lot to the music channels.My room size is 400 sq.ft..Thanks again!
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I am getting a new tv.It will come with a 10 watt speaker on each side.Is this adequate?It comes with Surround Sound MTS.Is this good?What does MTS mean?Thanks much!

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well your question of weather it's adequate or not is purely subjective.  one thing that may be adequate for one person may not be adequate for another.
Is a 10 watt speaker adequate to hear the sound of a TV show in a non-noisy room?  Yes
Is a 10 watt speaker capable of recreating a movie theater experience? No

Tell me what your needs are and I can help you create equipment that will be "adequate" and then some.

As for MTS, MTS is little more than a fancy term for stereo.  read here:

http://img.shopping.com/cctool/WhatsIs/96252_478.epi.html

Cheers!

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Ok, well I cant really tell you what you want.  its a matter of personal preffrence.  you can spend alot of money and get a great pre-fab stereo or you can build your own stuff or you can just use the TV with what it has built in and it's all a matter of what you want.   What you are doing is like someone just asking "hey, I'm getting a geo metro, will that be enough? or should I get a firrari?  Its not a question anyone can answer.  Its like asking someone I want to get an apple, should I get an orange?

Do you consider yourself a serious listener?
Do you want a realistic reproduction of sound?
Do you want the bass to be realisticly produced?
Do you have  budget to work with if you want more?
I can help you achieve whatever you want but so far you havent given me anything to work with.


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ok well I have never found a tv with speakers I would consider even close to adequate built in,  the right way to do it is to get a reciever and a set of speakers.  if you will be using a cable box or satelight tuner you are set since they will have audio outputs but if you plan on only using the built in tuner inside the tv make sure the tv has audio output jacks on it,  if it doesnt you'll need to use something for a tuner like a VCR, cable box, or something.  if you are using an external tuner like this just plug only the video out from the tuner into your tv and set the tv to this, turn the speaekrs on the tv all the way down.  you'll adjust the channel with this external tuner.  connect the audio outputs from the tuner to the reciever's inputs and have the speakers hooked to the reciever.  youll adjust the volume with the reciever.

about $150 is the lowwest you can spend on a reciever like this one:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fW37zNxgkxA/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?wm=fp&I=158STR197B

and probably for your needs I wouldnt go over the $250 range like this one (this thing is loaded and a steal for $250:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fW37zNxgkxA/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?wm=fp&I=580TXS504B

then you'll just need a nice set of speakers.  I've hear these and was quite impressed for the price:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fW37zNxgkxA/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?wm=fp&I=700P250&g=

make sure you get a pair since most are sold individually (this link is for a pair so just get one pair!)

a little warning!  equipment like this may turn you into a serious listener!!  I have alot of friends that I've built systems for and they never apriciated music until they heard all the details they were missing that speakers like this can reveal.

If you need more info or some different options let me know.  These 2 components are probably about the biggest bang for the buck though.  Onkyo makes fantasic home theater recievers.  I have 2 of their $3,000 flagship model and love them.  I also use alot of infinity speakers in my own designs and to this day the best speakers I own are a custom modified set of infinity speakers and I have personally heard these specific infinitys I'm recomending in the above link.

Please let me know how it goes ok?

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Yes, I think onkyo makes a great reciever for my needs.  unfortunatly they dont make the model I have anymore.  It was the onkyo TX-DS989.  I believe the model that's designed to replace it is the Onkyo TX-NR1000 which is more expensive for it's bells and whistles.

based on our previous conversations I think you should stick around the 250-500 range.  anything else will just be useless bells and whistles.
Did you get the TV yet?  Hows the sound?

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cool, actually  I'm quite fond of infinity in general and actually built a sound system for a friend consisting of the Primus 360s and a custom built sub and amp rack.  it sounded fantastic!  I highly recomend the Primus 360s!!
as for wattage, I'm not exactly sure where you're seeing 350 watt and 500 watt recievers unless you're seeing total power which is all channels combined to total 500 watts or whatever they're showing.  combined or total or peak power isnt important.  what is important is how many speakers you will have, what ohms they are, and how many watts the reciever puts out for the ohms and channels you will have.  in other words, if you have a reciever that supports 9 channels but all you ever have is 2 speakers (2 channels) then all that is kindof wasted.  so lets look at the primus 360.  they are rated for 200 watts at 8 ohms.
Most of the recievers are 100-130 watts per channel so look for an amp in that range.  I wouldn't sugest one in the 70 watt or lowwer range.  higher is definatly better for these, in fact I ran them with external amps rated for 700 watts per speaker and they ran great!
I would also recomend a sub to go with this setup since the Primus 360's shouldn't run below 80hz or so.  a sub like this will be perfect:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MCjEyyehv8j/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=12300&I=108PS12

Make sure the reciever you get has a sub out or preamp sub out connection (same thing).

Let me know how its going!