Chrysler Repair: Filling 2.7/3.2/3.5L cooling systems using special funnel, deltona fl, drive belts


Question
QUESTION: can you send me the pages that tell me how to use the miller tool 8195?

ANSWER: Hi Jack,
What part of the vehicle/for what purpose is this tool used? If engine, mention which size. Postal mailing address?
Roland

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QUESTION: it is used to fill the radiator so no air is trapped on latemodel dodge
1059 hemingway dr deltona fl 32725

ANSWER: Hi Jack,
Here is the text from the manual. Let me know if you want the figures which I can then copy and send it all by mail.
FILLING - 2.7L
Close radiator draincock by turning clockwise.
NOTE: IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE COOLING SYSTEM AIR BLEED VALVE BE OPENED BEFORE ANY COOLANT IS ADDED TO THE COOLING SYSTEM. FAILURE TO OPEN THE BLEED VALVE FIRST WILL RESULT IN AN INCOMPLETE FILL OF THE SYSTEM.

Open cooling system bleed valve (Cooling System Filling - 2.7L).
Attach a 6.35 mm (0.250 in.) inside diameter clear hose that is 120.0 cm (48 in.) long to the bleed valve. Route the hose away from accessory drive belts and radiator fan. Position the other end of hose into a collecting container. The hose will prevent coolant from contacting accessory drive belts and other components.
Remove cooling system pressure cap. Attach Special Tool 8195, Filling Aid Funnel to coolant pressure container filler neck.
Use the supplied clip to pinch overflow hose that connects between the two chambers of the pressure container (Cooling System Filling - 2.7L).
Pour coolant into the larger section of Filling Aid Funnel (the smaller section of funnel is to allow air to escape).
Slowly continue filling until a steady stream of coolant flows from attached hose on bleed valve.
Close bleed valve and continue filling system to top of Filling Aid Funnel. DO NOT overtighten. TIghten to 12.4 N·m (110 lbs. in.).
Remove clip from overflow hose.
Allow coolant in Filling Aid Funnel to drain into overflow chamber of pressure container.
Remove Special Tool 8195, Filling Aid Funnel and install pressure cap on pressure container.
Remove hose from bleed valve.
Start engine and allow to run until thermostat opens and radiator fans cycle.
NOTE:

The engine cooling system will push any remaining air into the pressure container within about one half hour of normal driving. As a result, a drop in coolant level in the pressure container may occur.

If the engine cooling system overheats and pushes coolant into the overflow chamber of the pressure container, this coolant will be sucked back into the cooling system ONLY IF THE PRESSURE CAP IS LEFT ON THE PRESSURE CONTAINER. Removing the pressure cap breaks the vacuum path between the two chambers of the pressure container and the coolant will not return to the cooling system.


Shut off engine and allow it to cool down. This permits coolant to be drawn into the pressure chamber.
With engine COLD, observe coolant level in pressure chamber. Coolant level should be within MIN and MAX marks. Adjust coolant level as necessary.  

Once the system is filled properly the funnel is not needed until it has been drained and needs refilling.
Roland

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QUESTION: can you tell me where to find the bleeder? Also is there a way to properly fill this system without the miller tool?

Answer
The bleeder is on the top of the engine, right at the centerline, directly in front of the intake manifold where you see a couple of round holes, just below and to the left (as viewed from the front of the vehicle) of the MAP sensor which is held in place by two screws on the edge of the manifold. It has an inverted funnel shape with a nipple to attach the tube to.
I can't tell you an alternative because I haven't tried to do this myself. But apparently what it has is a septum that splits the funnel into two have and so you pour the coolant in one side and the other side allow air to escape from the bottle as you are filling the system so you don't force any air into the system while you are filling it. And you also get a clamp to pinch the overflow hose on the container which connects the two compartments of the bottle while you are doing the job. It seems pretty simple in concept so I suspect you can do a work-around without it.
I will copy the pages from the '04 manual and send them to you. Then when you do it, please write back and tell me if you figured out a way to do this properly without the funnel and I will share it with others. You don't have to go through this procedure if the system is already properly filled and you just want to add some coolant to the system.

Roland

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