Chrysler Repair: 97 Plymouth Breeze: horn blows constantly, infinite ohms, clock spring


Question
QUESTION: Horn didn't work at first, husband checked fuse it was Ok, bought a relay switch horn begin to work but now want shut off constantly blows. What should he do?

ANSWER: Hi Jennifer,
I can't be sure what the time sequence was of these problem, but either the relay's contact points are stuck in the closed position which of course will blow the horn constantly, or the wire from the steering wheel to the horn relay actuation coil is grounded due it being shorted to ground.
If you have a volt-ohm meter or a continuity tester the first possibility would be to measure between pin 8 and 10 of the relay itself after removing it from its socket. Those are the 2 pins that are side by side. If it is continuous (0 Ohms) then the relay has gone bad. If it is not continuous (infinite Ohms) the the relay is OK. If it was OK, then I would check in the relay socket to see if the upper pin of the three side by side (pin 7) is showing 0 ohm  between it and ground (any shiny metal structural part of the car nearby to the box). If it is grounded (0 ohms) then you probably have a shorted wire in the flexible coupling between the steering wheel and the steering column called the "clockspring" and that would need to be replaced (remove steering wheel, etc., write back for details), If it is not shorted to ground, then something else is shorted which can be further checked.
Roland

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QUESTION: I have the pad over the horn switch leveled out. When you make sharp turns the horn still blows. Could the clock spring be over extended causing this to happen? If the clock spring is the problem is it a dealer item or can I get it at an auto parts store. I need detailed intructions on how to remove the steering wheel so I can replace it.

Answer
I am not sure about what you mean by 'leveled out', but if the clock spring weren't centered when the steering wheel was removed it could subsequently be damaged by turning the wheel to an extreme position. I believe you can get it at a trade-type car parts store, so compare that to the price from a dealer. I would however verify that the pin 7 is grounded before assuming that the clockspring is the cause of the problem, and also check the relay as I described.
It would be more efficient for me to xerox copy a couple of pages from the shop manual about the change out procedure rather than typing all of it in. I can postal mail those to you if you give me a postal mailing address.
Roland