Questioni whent and looked at that and I took out the fuses and the lights all stayed on. Would they stay on if the fuse or reley is in. That 25 amp is good i checked it and the reley looked ok. Should i get a new one anyway? or is there anything else it could be that you could think of
bryan
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Would this be where the fuesses are or in the moter bay. I haven't work on this car much. I only worked no my Honda and mazda. So this is really diffrent to me. Thanx for the help
Bryan
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Hi,
The Van I am working on is a 1990 Chrysler Voyager with the 3.3. I will be driving down the road for about 1/2 hour and then all of a sudden the lights will shut off all by them selfes. Then they will come back on for about a min. If they don't come back on I have to shut them off and then they will come back on, and shut off about 1 min latter and keep doing this untill I shut the Van off and turn it back on. I think it could be a relay but i can't find one on it. I need some help
bryan
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One further idea, if the relay isn't the cause, is the 25 amp circuit breaker in the top position of the middle column of the block. That supplies the relay and if it were weak, the same sort of problem that you have could occur.
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It should be in the passenger compartment, to the left of the driver's lower leg, on the sidewall or inner cowl, but underneath the lower edge of the dash. You have to crouch down at the door opening and look up from low in the cabin to see it hidden above the visible panel. Again, you could listen to the emergency flasher relay clicking and find it thst way. I just am not absolutely certain this how the '90 is set up, but it clearly is in the '91. Several of the cars went to the relay block design in '90.
AnswerHi Bryan,
I'm glad you found it, was it where I thought it might be?
The relay for the low beam lights is the top one in the column of 4 relays. If you pull out the relay the low beams should not work. The high beam "horn" flash should still work, but I'm fairly sure the high beam all the time should not work without the relay as well, but I can't be sure. In any case, the issue is what is happening after you drive for a while and the headlamps go off, that is the time when you have to figure out why. I would try at that point to tap on the relay and see if they come back on in response to the tapping. Another thing would be to listen to the relay to see how loudly it clicks when the headlamps go on, then when they go out, try turning the switch off then on and see if you hear the click. If not then I would suspect the relay is not working reliably. Similarly with the circuit breaker, try tapping on it when the lights fail to see if that brings them back on.
I don't know which fuses you removed, and do you believe they are for the headlamps but the lamps worked anyway? The fuses shown for the headlamps are #17 and 18 (one for each side) and since both headlamps fail that would eliminate the fuses as the problem because there is very little likelihood that both would fail at the same time. It could be the dimmer switch or the headlamp switch, of course. But drive it until it acts up, then try tapping on the components to see if any of them will then self-correct. I don't think you can diagnose this intermittant problem unless you test it in the failed state. Do you have a voltmeter to use to test the circuit? You may need to find out at what point the 12V is being lost in the circuit when it fails.
Roland
