QuestionQUESTION: As you suggested, I bought some PB Blaster today. Sprayed around the oil drain plug, but didn't seem to help. Sprayed some more with no luck. I almost gave up and began working on another project, then thought I'd give the oil drain plug one more try and it turned. I guess the PB Blaster worked. Thanks for the suggestion.
To make sure all the oil was drained, I tipped the engine up on the edge of it's base. When I did this something inside slid down in the direction I tipped the engine. Is this a problem or is it something inside that suppose to be loose? It just sounded like a piece of metal sliding inside. Sort of like if you put a washer on one edge of an iron frying pan then tipped the pan up on edge until washer slid down to the other end.
ANSWER: Hello Jerry:
There is Not Supposed to be Anything Loose in the Crankcase of the Engine and there is Nothing that would Make a Sliding Noise like you Described. If a Part of the Internal Governor has Broken or if the Engine has a Counter-Balance Weight that a Piece has Broken Off of, I cannot Think of a Reason for the Noise you Heard. If it were me and I Heard the Noise, I would Remove the Engine from the Frame and Open the Crankcase and Inspect the Internal Components and Remove Whatever is Making the Noise and Replace the Broken Component before the Engine is Run Again. That Way I Do Not have a Bigger Problem from the Moving Metal Inside the Engine Jamming the Piston, the Crankshaft, the Governor or Counter-Balance Weight. The Following Instruction File is for Replacing the Internal Governor and can be Used for Inspecting the Internal Components of the Engine. The Following is a Basic Instruction File for Examining the Inside of a Small Engine and will Assist you in having Access to the Governor, Oil Pump (if Applicable), Cam and Crankshaft Gear. Any Input is Appreciated. **This is a Simple Process. Drain the Oil and Remove the Engine to the Work Bench with the Oil Pan Facing Up. I have a Wooden Rest that was Especially Made to Hold the Engine when in this Position. Using Fine Sand Paper, Remove ALL the Rust and Debris from the Crankshaft. Remove the Oil Pan Bolts. After All the Oil Pan Bolts are Removed; Tap Lightly on the Sides of the Oil Pan to Loosen it from the Dowel Pins. When the Oil Pan is Removed, you can See the Governor Resting on Top of the Cam Gear. ****If Required: Lift Off and Replace with a New Governor. Check the Engine Block for Debris from the Old Governor and Wipe the Inside of the Block With a Rag, Until Clean. Set the Governor Shaft So it will be Resting on the Governor whine the Oil Pan is Replaced and Carefully Replace the Oil Pan. If the Crankshaft Seal Was Not Leaking, then Leave it Alone. It Should be OK. You can Easily Replace it While Mounted on the Machine if Required Later. Make Sure the Governor Stays in Contact with the Governor Shaft while Replacing the Oil Pan. Re - Mount the Engine to the Machine. Refill With Oil. Your Internal Governor May Differ.** Please, Do Not Hesitate, If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem, I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Thanks.
Good Luck
Respectfully
John
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John
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QUESTION: The model # for this B&S engine is 170402 0714-01 7006251. The motor is already off the snowblower. I'm the one who had this motor sitting outside, covered for several years. I brought it in a month or so ago. It's on one of my work benches in the basement.
It has a horizontal shaft so has a flat base. The gas tank faces me, to the front of the bench. The oil drain plug is on the base, below the gas tank. I took out the plug and tipped the motor up on the edge until the base was almost vertical. That's when I first began hearing what sounds like something sliding around. Is there anything inside that could come lose if the engine is tipped to far? How about when the oil is completely drained? Anything that could move aeound like that?
Also, when I tipped it up, oil started coming out somewhere behind the gas tank. Tonight I took the tank off and tipped the motor again to try to see where the oil came from, but nothing came out. I guess I have it well drasined.
AnswerHi Again Jerry:
The Oil Most Likely came out of the Crankcase Breather which is Located Behind the Gas Tank. No Worries there. I Looked at the Breakdown and can Not See Anything that should be Sliding Around Inside the Engine. With or Without Oil, there is Nothing that Should be Moving Around Inside this Engine. You can View a Breakdown/IPL of this Engine at this Site Addy, http://www.smallenginepartswarehouse.com/parts.asp and Select the Shop Online Parts Look Up. Then Select the Model Tab. Then Select the OEM and Enter the Model (5 or 6 Digits) and Type Numbers (first 4 digits Only). Example: 170402-0714. Then Double Click on the Model in the Results Area. Select Sectional Index. Now you can Select the Section of the Engine you Wish to View. Please, Do Not Hesitate, If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem, I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Thanks.
Good Luck
Respectfully
John
PS: I am Allowed to Answer 10 Questions a Day. If you See I am Maxxed Out, then Try Submitting your Question at or Just After 8pm EST (US). My New Day Starts then. Comments and Ratings are Greatly Appreciated. Thanks.
Respectfully
John
