Small Engines (Lawn Mowers, etc.): Honday HRZ216TDA Self Propulsion Problem, clutch lever, rotary blade


Question
QUESTION: I have a Honda Harmony II HRZ216TDA self propelled mower which isn't propelling anymore.  If you engage the "drive clutch lever" and hold the mower rear up, the wheels do spin, but engaging it while fully on the ground seems to actually make it harder to push.  Do you think it's the belt slipping (still the original belt from purchase 5 years ago) or do the symptoms point more toward the transmission?

Thanks,
Bob

ANSWER: Hello Bob:

You can View a Breakdown/IPL of the Mower/Engine at this Site Addy, http://hayward.arinet.com/scripts/EmpartISAPI.dll?MF&app=ASP&lang=EN&TF=Mainfram and Select the Catalog American Honda. I Suggest you Check the Transmission Tension Spring and the Belt. If the Spring has Broken or Fallen Off or the Belt is Worn and is Loose, the Mower will have this Problem. The Belt is Shown in the Rotary Blade File. If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

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John

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QUESTION: Thanks for the direction John, but I need a bit more help.  I didn't see an easy way to take off the transmission assembly and get a good look at the spring, so I can't be sure, but the spring *seems* to be attached.  Also, the belt doesn't seem to be loose, if I manual rotate the blades it rotates the ring on the transmission.  How would I be able to tell if the belt is loose?  Also, what's the best way to remove the transmission so I can get a better look at the spring?

If both the belt and spring are good to go, which way should I go next?

Thanks!
Bob

ANSWER: Hello Again Bob:

Remove the Belt Cover and Engage the Drive (Engine Off of Course). You can Now Feel the Belt Tension. Now Release the Drive and Feel the Belt Tension. If the Belt Tension Loosened by Itself when the Drive was Released, then the Spring is Connected and is Pulling the Transmission as Designed. If the Belt and Spring are Good, then Clean and Inspect the Wheel Ratchet Assemblies. If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

PS: I am Allowed to Answer 10 Questions a Day. If you See I am Maxxed Out, then Try Submitting your Question at or Just After 8pm EST (US). My New Day Starts then. Thanks.

Respectfully

John

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QUESTION: John,

   Thanks for your help so far.  I removed the Belt Cover and her is what I found.  The tension on the belt does not change at all with or without the Drive engaged.  When you mentioned the Tension Spring were you talking about part 4 in the Transmission breakdown or the small spring on the transmission itself?  The part 4 spring I mention previously does not change when the Drive is engaged either.  When I engage the drive it does move the small lever on the transmission the cable is attached to which does engage the small spring connected to it which is on the transmission itself.  Does that make any sense?

   Anyway, if that did make sense to you, do you think it's the belt, the spring, or something else?

Thanks for your patience,
Bob

Answer
Hi Bob:

First. You May get a Notice After this E-Mail that you have Asked Too Many Questions. This is the Site. You can Start a New Thread if you Require More Answers to this or Any Other Equipment. Now to this Problem. Are you Sure the Transmission Cable is Moving? If the Cable is Moving, then Try to Manually Move the Shift Arm on the Transmission. Can you Manually Shift the Transmission? If No, then the Transmission Requires Penetrating Oil on the Shifter Shaft to Break up the Rust that has Formed Between the Shifter Shaft and the Transmission Housing. If the Belt has Enough Tension to Properly Turn the Transmission Pulley and Since you have Stated the Spring and Shifter Arm is Not Moving, I Suggest you Get the Shifter Arm Moving and then we can go from there if Required. The Spring I was Talking About was the #4 Spring in the Breakdown. If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

PS: I am Allowed to Answer 10 Questions a Day. If you See I am Maxxed Out, then Try Submitting your Question at or Just After 8pm EST (US). My New Day Starts then. Thanks.

Respectfully

John