Steering Column Repair: Jeep Ignition, computer locks, electronic value


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Yes, it is a grand cherokee.
The person got this used, and it came with one black key and one grey.  My guess is the black one is aftermarket.  I took the VIN in to the dealer and they said it should be a transponder ignition.  I'd be afraid to try it without, the parts guy at crysler said I don't get many chances before the computer locks up...

Jeff


You did not say what type of Jeep we are dealing with. The Grand Cherokee had SKIM standard and all others were optional on that year.
DON'T remove any anti-tamper screws!
If the key Bow (Where keyring goes) is black, it does not have a transponder. If it is gray, it does.
If you are working with a transponder and a key box, remove the steering column shrouds and loop the antenna from the key box around the ignition lock cylinder and reinstall shrouds. If you are using an additional key in the key box, grind the blade off so it can't be used to start the car if access to the box is gained.

Good luck!

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Hi,

You get 4 chances before computr has to be reset. Try the black key to see if it works. If tranaponder, engine will run for 6 seconds and then shut off. The guy at Chrysler could have told you for sure by running the VIN through the factory which will display all the options on the vehicle. If it is a GC chances are that it is so equipped and someone made a key just to unlock the doors.
Pull the shrouds offf by removing the screws from under the steering column. I believe there are three torx and I don't believe they are anti tamper. Anti tamper is a joke because sockets and nut driver's are available at hardware stores. The only difference between anti-tamper and torx is that there is a hole in the center to fit on a center nub on the screw.
Once shrouds are off you will see a black plastic component with an electrical connection at the froont of the lock. This is known as a transceiver. It is the antenna to read the electronic value of the key.
Loop the antenna wire from the key box around the front of the ignition lock where the transceiver is located. Basically you are just extending the antenna so that the system can read the key in the key box.
Here is a website for keyboxes and instructions if it is still up: http://www.transponderbypass.com
The problem with the dealers is that most don't understand anything about the transponders. They usually are parts changers and completely rely on what the factory scan tool (DRBIII) tells them when there is a problem.

These systems do stop joy rides, but they don't stop theft. They are advertised as anti-theft or theft proof when in reality they only deter the thief from driving off with the vehicle.
If you need another transponder key and you don't have the factory originals, don't get ripped off by the dealer. Call your local automotive locksmith store and ask if the have a Code Seeker, a "T" code or a D.A.R.T scanner. They can program keys for you for a lot less money than the dealer charges.

I hope I helped you with your problem.

Good Luck!

Rob