Tires: Direction Tires and Tire Pull, toyo proxes 4 tires, toyo proxes 4


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Your right, those are my two options.  Any opinion as to whether this sounds like a tire or alignment problem, or both, based on what I described?

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I purchased a new 2006 Acura TL (with A-spec package) and purchased a set of Toyo Proxes 4 tires to be installed by the Acura dealer rather than the stock tires/wheels.  As you already know these tires are directional.  When mounted and balanced by the dealer, the car immediately pulled to the right.  They checked the alignment and said it was fine.  They also put the stock tires/wheels back on the car and it drove straight.  They also switched the two front tires (even though this pointed them in the wrong direction) to see what would happen.  The car then pulled left.  As such, they said it was a tire problem.

So I contacted the tire store I bought the tires from. They stated that simply switching the two front tires doesn't help to isolate the problem because doing so on directional tires would automatically cause the car the pull one way or the other.  Their solution was to remove the wheels from the two front tires, flip them 180 degrees, remount the wheels and then cross them so the tires are on the opposite side but pointed in the proper direction. Car still pulled to the right.  Then they did the exact same thing to the rear tires but it still pulled right.  I suggested they rotate from front to rear to see if that isolated the problem to one of the two front tires.  They didn't think rotating the tires from front to rear would tell them anything and are basically blaming it on the car. Now they want their alignment shop to look at the car's alignment to see if it is to spec before they start swapping tires one by one.  

Everyone I talk to points to the tires as the problem; everyone but the tire shop that is.  Any comments or suggestions about my dilema would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Answer -
Chris,

You sort of have 2 choices here.

1)  Accept the fact that the tire shop wants to verify the alignment before they start proceeding - which is a fairly reasonable thing to do.  Hopefully they won't try biasing the alignment to make the current tires work.  (They probably won'y do that as it is more expensive and time consuming.)

2)  Cut your loses and move on.  

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Chris,

I thought you have established it was a tire problem by swapping the front tires, so I am a little confused by your question.  It concerns me that after all the exchanges we have had, this hasn't proceeded to the end game - dealing with the tire dealer.

Is there some problem in this area?