QuestionMy car was recently totaled due to extensive hail damage. I still owe on a loan for this car. If I ask to keep the car and get the settlement money from the insurance company (and put the vehicle under a salvage title) will I be required to pay the money received to the lien holder or to fix the car?
AnswerHi Stephanie,
Dealing with a totaled car versus an existing loan on the books will require you to work with the lender. Hopefully your payments have been regular, as that will give you a little flexibility.
The bank does NOT want to repossess your car, but they also do not want to see the value of their security severely diminished. Again, your specific loan will be key here. If you owe a much smaller amount than the actual cash value, then you have more flexibility.
Here are three choices, which you will have to work through the lender for its approval. In direct answer to your question, you will have to put such money into the vehicle as the lender will require.
Obviously, if you only owe a modest amount versus the actual cash value, it will be different than if the loan balance is a higher percentage of the actual cash value.
1. Lower Repair Costs With USED and/or NON-OEM Parts
SAVE YOUR CAR FROM BEING TOTALED BY REPAIRING WITH USED and/or NON-OEM PARTS and STIPULATING TO IGNORE SOME COSMETIC DAMAGE.
Have you considered whether or not YOU want your car "totaled"? Do you know whether or not the money you will receive will buy you anywhere near the same quality of transportation that you enjoy with your present vehicle?
It sounds like your vehicle is a good one to keep, Stephanie, since you were thinking of getting it on salvage. Would you have to incur a loan payment to get adequate replacement transportation?
What if you put a lot of money into repairs and new parts in the past 18 months? You will not get that money back in cash value of the car, but the repairs may have made your vehicle desirable to continue operating.
So, rather than taking the low offer of cash and trying to find a vehicle that will be reliable, they put the money into fixing the wreck with used parts, leaving aside cosmetic damage (who cares if you drive an eleven year old car with some bumps and bruises -- especially when that will reduce the repair bill a ton??).
So the first thing, if you are happy with the performance of your car, or if you have put a lot of money into maintenance or repair, would be to explore ways to keep the car.
Make the body shop finish the estimate. Ask what the body shop would charge to repair your vehicle with USED and/or NON-OEM parts. You can negotiate to leave some cosmetic damage showing to save money. I would not be surprised to see up to 45% come off their repair bill in that case. If you have a car that was running fine, why not keep it, even if you have to drive around with some dents showing?
Find out the maximum amount that the insurance company will pay for repairs before they elect to total your vehicle. Then arrange for your repairs to be done within that limit. This is my first choice and better if you can make it happen. Naturally it is the lenders choice, but your payment record, balance owing, and persuasive argument can help here. If the adjuster still wants to total your car, then you have to go to the next step.
2. BUY BACK CAR FROM INSURANCE COMPANY, REPAIR IT, RE-TITLE AND RE-LICENSE IT, AND KEEP IT. YOU GET YOUR EQUITY, LESS THE SALVAGE VALUE THAT YOU PAY TO BUY IT BACK AND THE COST OF REPAIRS PLUS INSPECTION AND RE-LICENSING COSTS.
Here is one way to get the insurance adjuster at her own game. Let's say that you value your car at $9,500, but the insurance adjuster, after considering the latest documentation you have to offer, values it at only $8,000. Don't forget, that is her value BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. Lets say that you only owe $2,000 or so. Upon approval of the lender here is what you might try to do.
Ask for the salvage price, which should be around $1,500 or less.
NOW, if you were to pay that amount and then to set up the repairs to be done with USED and/or NON-OEM PARTS, and perhaps forgoing some of the strictly beauty finishing items, you could get repairs done for a lot less than the estimate given to the insurance company. Say, around $$6,000.
Try to avoid having the title being reported as totaled since that will require you to get the car re-titled. You will have to take it to the state patrol to be inspected as a salvaged vehicle. You will need paperwork from both the insurance company and the auto body shop that confirms both the amount you paid for the salvage, the fact that you are authorized to title the vehicle, and a receipt for the work and parts from the auto body shop. You pay for the inspection and then the re-licensing through the Department of Licensing. So leave aside around $100 for the state inspection, plus the cost to get new title, license plates, and tabs. The cost for the latter will be the same for any other vehicle of the same price as your salvage buy-back price.
In summary, you got $8,000 cash for the car, bought it back for $1,500, and you paid out $6,000 to get it repaired and ready for inspection and licensing, which are $100 and $160, respectively. Thus, your total out-of pocket outlay will be the grand total of $7,760.
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3. Fight Actual Cash Value and Present Your Own Research, and COMMUNICATE IN WRITING.
Now, changing topics back to how to get that value up for the insurance adjuster, let's get started for you. The first tasks are to get at the actual cash value and next throw out that outrageous offer that they made you.
My favorite sites for valuation are www.Edmunds.com and www.autotrader.com. They want to know your zip code, and then they ask for a range in miles to search. Don't limit yourself to your city: it is reasonable that someone could go up to 300 miles to pick up a used car. That way you will get a lot more information. Be aware that you should pick the option "any distance" from your zip code. You can use information from local papers, advertising flyers, car dealerships, and the Internet.
Be aware that the prices shown are the "asking" price, not the actual cash value. But also be aware that the insurance adjusters have used a computer scan of sales that were at the trade-in value, NOT the actual cash value.
If you have made major item replacements, above and beyond normal maintenance, you need to document them and ask for a review of those extras. For example, a rebuilt transmission or the like will add value to a used car. How about new tires or a new stereo system? The issue is: how much (if any) did they increase the FMV or actual cash value of the car. See this link and scroll to the bottom for more information on that topic. Car Accidents: Totaled, Repair, Valuation, Your Rights http://www.settlementcentral.com/page0007.htm
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4. Final Topic: Communicate in Writing—“DEMAND”, Don’t ASK
Effective communication with insurance claims adjusters. Establish Firm, Professional, and Positive Relationships With the Insurance Injury Claims Adjuster http://www.settlementcentral.com/page0059.htm
Always communicate with the adjuster in writing, showing your own analysis of value. It is OK I guess to have one call or so, but no more. Always have your information and ammunition in writing to give to the adjuster.
Let him know that you are FIRM IN YOUR RESOLVE to get what you are demanding (NOT "asking", since that invites a counter-offer, but instead "demanding" as fair and reasonable compensation) by asking him what the options are to resolve the matter fairly should he not agree to a reasonable claim value. In other words, let him know that you will go through with a court filing if need be.
Remember these tips, do your homework, print out your evidence, show resolve to get your fair settlement, and you will DO JUST FINE.
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Best Wishes,
Dr. Settlement, J.D. (Juris Doctor)
http://www.SettlementCentral.Com
