Chrysler Repair: 94 3.5L dies when slowing down. Codes 13, 14. 24


Question
QUESTION: Hi Roland,

It would not let me do a follow up to our previous thread. The engine code coming off the car is:

1-2-1-3-1-4-2-4-5-5

Thanks,

Torie

ANSWER: Hi Torie,
Those code tell us two things are wrong.
The 12 code simply says the battery was disconnected recently so probably not important.
The 13 and 14 point to the manifold absolute pressure sensor not working properly. It is located on the intake manifold adjacent to the oil dipstick. Check the harness for any signs of metlting of the insulation or damage and if none then replace the sensor.
The 24 says the throttle position sensor signal is bad. So similarly check its harness and if no damage then replace the position sensor. It is located on the right side throttle body and is in line with the throttle body's connecting rod/butterfly valve shaft.
The 55 code in simply meaning "end of readout".
Thanks for the rating and nomination. You can do both again if you would be so kind. You are allowed to do up to 5 such nominations per month for a given expert.
Roland

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QUESTION: Sorry about the time it took to respond- email server placed this as junk- go figure LOL.

Anyway, I replaced the MAP Sensor and now the only code coming back is again 13- for the MAP Sensor. The other codes have cleared without replacing the TPS. Still stalling and the fumes are very overpowering. It smells like the car is running way to rich. Can you also tell me what the normal idle range is for this car. In park it's been at appx. 850 RPMs and then when in drive with the brake engaged it drops to 650 RPMs (I am not driving when doing this. However when I actually take it to drive and slow down it drops to under 500 and stalls.

Thanks again
Torie

Answer
Hi Torie,
The MAP sensor wiring needs to be checked because code 13 says it is not sensing any changes in the pressure of the intake manifold; and just in case make sure that it is mounted on the manifold with an air-tight fitting.
The wiring is:
middle pin dark green/red of plug to pin 1 of the 60 pin plug at the PCM
violet/white wire to pin 6 of the PCM
black/light blue to pin 4 of the PCM
Make sure of the connections and also check that they wires are not shorted together when the plug is disconnected from the sensor.
The idle should be around 850, but I can't evaluate what it should do when you are using the brake.
If you would be so kind as to give me another nomination for 'volunteer of the month' I would be most appreciative.
Roland