Small Engines (Lawn Mowers, etc.): Pull cord doesnt turn engine, recoil starter, chipper shredder


Question
QUESTION: John, I have a TroyBilt chipper shredder that has a B&S Moddel 204412-0417E1 engine. Was happily using it today until it ran out of gas. As I went to refill I noted that the bolts on the shroud had come loose. Tighten them, but now when I pull the cord it is free wheeling -- not turning the engine at all. Looked at taking the shroud off but carb is in the way. Must be a simpler way. What am I missing? Many thanks for reading and helping us all out. Regards, Jim

ANSWER: Hello Jim:

>>You can View a Breakdown/IPL of this Engine at this Site Addy, http://www.smallenginepartswarehouse.com/parts.asp and Select the Shop Online Parts Look Up. Then Select the Model Tab. Then Select the OEM and Enter the Model (5 or 6 Digits) and Type Numbers. Example: 204412-0417 or 204412-0417-E1. Then Double Click on the Model in the Results Area. Select Sectional Index. Now you can Select the Section of the Engine you Wish to View.
>>Select the Blower Housing/Shrouds, Flywheel, Rewind Starter Sub File.
>>From your Description it Sounds like the Starter Pawl-Ratchets (Diagram #459) are Sticking and Require Cleaning and Light Lubtication or the Pawl Friction Plate (Diagram #456) is Worn/Broken and Requires Replacing.
>>The Following is a Basic Horozontal Recoil Starter Repair Instruction File. Any Input/Suggestions are Appreciated. Remove the Starter Housing/Engine Cover. Remove the Old Rope (the Rope is Not Installed onto the Pulley Until AFTER the Spring and Pulley are Installed into the Housing. All will be explained later in these Instructions), Pulley and Spring from the Blower Housing. Clean the Housing. Now Take the New Spring and Locate the Housing Lock Hole that is Usually Near the Pull Handle Hole. Slip the New Spring Into this Hole and Lock the End Onto the Pulley. Now Lock the Pulley Into the Blower Housing. Turn the Pulley in the Same Direction that it would Turn During the Starting Process. The Spring will be Pulled Into the Blower Housing as you Turn the Pulley. When the Spring is Almost All the Way Into the Housing; Hold the End with Pliers and Make Sure it Catches in the Blower Housing Lock. Once the Spring is Locked Into the Housing, then Continue Turning the Pulley in the Same Direction that the Pulley would Turn if the Rope was Turning it. Once the Pulley will Turn No More, then Reverse Direction 1 or 2 Turns and Thread the New Rope Through the Hole in the Center of the Pulley and Out the Hole in the Blower Housing. Pull the Rope Through Until it is Tight Against the Pulley. Now Tie a Slip Knot in the Rope to Hold the Pulley in Place While the Handle is Attached to the Rope. Once the Handle is Attached, Release the Slip Knot and the Rope Should Retract Into the Housing. Reassemble the Blower Housing Onto the Engine. On Some Models you May have to Install the Rope Before you Lock the Pulley in Place. If So, there is a U in the Pulley that the Rope is Held in While Turning the Pulley to Tighten the Spring. These are for Most Recoil Starters. If these Instructions are Not for your Recoil Starter, then Send me the Model Numbers Off the Unit, Please. With these I can Locate the Proper Manual and Better Assist you.
>>If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I Hope to be Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Be Safe and Happy. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

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Respectfully

John

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QUESTION: Fantastic! I was able to take a long screw driver and awl and remove some dirt and it works! Ok to spray some wd40 in there? All the best, Jim

Answer
Hello Again Jim:

>>Since you are Doing it the Way you are, I Suggest you Use Liquid Wrench to throughly Soak the Recoil Starter Area and Allow it to Stand for a Few Minutes.
>>Now Use Compressed Air and Blow Out the Recoil Starter Area as Best as Possible.
>>Now Lubricate with WD40 or Jig-a-Loo.
>>As Always, If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I Hope to be Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Be Safe and Happy. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

PS: I am Allowed to Answer 3 Questions a Day. If you See I am Maxxed Out, then Try Submitting your Question at or Just After 8pm EST (US). My New Day Starts then. All Follow up Questions are Accepted at Any Time. Comments and Ratings are Greatly Appreciated. Thanks.

Respectfully

John