Small Engines (Lawn Mowers, etc.): High Voltage, craftsman model, briggs stratton


Question
QUESTION: Craftsman Model 441777    Type 0283 E1

Last week, my battery was fine. This week, it is dead.  I bought a new battery today and it worked fine.  But I was curious about the battery voltage with the mower running and checked it for several minutes. The longer it ran, the higher the voltage.  I killed the engine when the voltage passed 15VDC.  Is this normal? Is there a voltage regular on this model?  What happens to the battery if the voltage goes too high?

Based on the B&S link
 http://www4.briggsandstratton.com/miscpdfs/RNT/alternator_id.pdf

my mower appears to have charging configuration  "G", a black wire and a red wire terminating in a 2 wire white connector. This connector is connected to a larger 6-wire white connector by two very short wires.  I can send you pictures of these connections and sheets from the parts manual but I don't know how without an email address.

Thanks,
Dan

ANSWER: Hello Dan:

Thanks for the Link. If the Stator is Over Charging the Battery, then it Cooks the Battery and Boils the Acid out of the Cells. Send me the Model Numbers Off the Mower, Please. With these I can Locate the Proper Manual and Better Assist you. They are Usually Located Under the Seat. This Stator Usually has a Regulator. We Used to have a Feature to Attach Pictures to your Questions. I Just Noticed it was Missing. I will Check with Tech Support and Find out what Happened to this Feature. Thanks for Bringing this to my Attention. Thanks.

Respectfully

John

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John


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QUESTION: Briggs & Stratton Model 441777    Type 0283 E1
Craftsman Model 917 276601

Thanks for your reply John.  The model # I previously reported was actually the B&S #.  I can send the pictures I made and any others you need plus the pages from the manual if you can tell me how.  I also should state that I used the battery that went bad in an attempt to jump start another craftsman mower, but was unsuccessful. That battery started my mower a day or two afterwards as I moved the mower in my garage, perhaps running the engine 2-3 minutes.  This week, that battery was completely dead so I replaced it with a new one and ran the voltage test mentioned before.  I may have fried something attempting to jump the other mower.
Thanks,
Dan

ANSWER: Hello Dan:

LOL. I was Asking for the Sears Mower Model Numbers. No Worries. I Located the Engine Breakdown I was Looking for. This Engine Does have a Voltage Regulator. I Suggest you Check the Stator with the Regulator Disconnected from the Stator. This Site Addy will Assist you in Checking the Regulator and Stator. http://www4.briggsandstratton.com/miscpdfs/RNT/alternator_id.pdf . If you Jumped the Mower with a Vehicle and the Vehicles Engine was Running, then Most Likely you Fried the Regulator. A Vehicles Alternator is Usually No Less than 34 AMPS and a Mowers Stator/Alternator is Only 16 AMPS Max. The Higher AMP Alternator is Too Much for the Lower AMP Regulator or Stator and Causes Damage. If the Unit has a Regulator, then the Regulator is Damaged and Protects the Stator/Alternator and if No Regulator, the Stator/Alternator is Damaged. If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

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Respectfully

John


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QUESTION: John,

Thanks for the info but I can't find a regulator anywhere in the manual.  It does not show a regulator on the skematic nor on the parts list nor on the parts diagrams. The alternator is p/n 696459 and the armature-magneto is p/n 691060.  My charging setup appears to be Type G as shown on the link you sent me.  HELP   LOL!

Answer
Hi Dan:

I Apologize for the Confusion. I was Looking at the 10-16 AMP Stator and Not the Dual Circuit Alternator. I Just Located the Files for Checking the Charging System. Your Charging System is a Dual Circuit Alternator and has a "Built In" Regulator. Here is a Site Addy that Shows you How to Check the Alternator. http://faqs.custhelp.com/rnt/rnw/img/enduser/105-AC_DC_test_chart.jpg .  This Being a Dual Circuit Alternator, I have Seen Plenty of these Alternators Stop Charging, but Never Overcharge like you Described. Usually when this Alternator Goes Bad, it Quits Charging, Not Overcharge the Battery. You can View a Breakdown/IPL of the Unit at this Site Addy; http://www.briggsandstratton.com/maint_repair/manual_and_more/doclist.aspx?categ and Enter the Model Numbers and Type Numbers (0283) in the Appropriate Boxes and Click GO. The Select Download PDF. On Page 7 of 14, you will See the Alternators/Stators for this Engine. Since this Dual Circuit Alternator is Overcharging, your Only Recourse is to Replace the Alternator. Again, I Apologize for Not Paying More Attention to the Details of the Stator/Alternator I was Looking at. If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

PS: I am Allowed to Answer 10 Questions a Day. If you See I am Maxxed Out, then Try Submitting your Question at or Just After 8pm EST (US). My New Day Starts then. Thanks.

Respectfully

John