Tires: antique car tire sizes, car tire sizes, radial tires


Question
QUESTION: I have a '48 Packard that has a set of dry rotted, tires. They are 9.00x15 size and I like the taller profile and narrow tread look. They are labeled as 4 ply nylon...Sears brand..1900 lb rating.

Can I replace these with a similar looking modern blackwall tire? I'm pretty sure these are non-radial tires on the car now, and if the old Packard engineers designed this car's suspension prior to radial tires being common...will radial tires change the "feel" of the ride?

I hesitate to look at the prices from the antique car tire sellers...and am hoping for a more affordable fix to this issue.

Is there a modern cross ref size to match this tire?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Bill in TX

ANSWER: Bill,

According to Tire Guides, a 1948 Packard came in 3 different types:

A Custom 8 with 7.00-16's inflated to 26 psi front and rear.

A Standard 8 with 6.50-16's inflated to 26 psi front, 28 psi rear with a option of 7.60-15's inflated to 24 psi front and rear.

A Super 8 with 7.00-16's inflated to 26 psi front and rear with an option of 7.60-15's inflated to 24 psi front and rear.

You obvious do not have the standard rims - and perhaps you have the optional rims - and they were 5.5F type rims - meaning they are 5 ½" wide with an F type flange.  

Just for reference, modern day tires use a J type flange (0.689" height) and F type flanges (0.875" height) are not used.

A 7.60-15 has a load carrying capacity of 1090# at 24 psi.  This type of tire was called an "Extra Low Pressure Tire".  The diameter is unspecified in the old books on the subject, but if I remember correctly, these were 90 aspect ratio, so with a 7.6" section width, the section height would be 6.84" making the overall diameter 28.68"

Interestingly, a 9.00-15 is a newer style tire than the 7.60-15 and was called a "low section Height Tire".  It had a load carrying capacity of 1900# at 32 psi, and at 24 psi it was rated at 1620#.  It fit on a 6JJ type rim.  The overal1 diameter was 29.50" with a section width of 8.50", making the aspect ratio 85%.

The problem is that modern tires are much lower in aspect ratio and the result is that they require a wider rim.  75 series tires are gradually disappearing and those that are remaining are kind of designed for pickups, vans, and SUV's.

But a P215/75R15 is 8.50" wide, fits on 5½" to 7" rims, has an overall diameter of 27.68" with a load carrying capacity of 1742# at 35 psi.

A P225/75R15 is 8.78" wide, fits on 6" to 7½" rims, has an overall diameter of 28.31" with a load carrying capacity of 1874# at 35 psi.

I think you can use either of those.

Will the ride change?  It is debatable as it is more dependent on the current tire and how it compares - which is not something I am willing to guess at.







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QUESTION: Thanks for the great info....but I also neglected to ask if you thought my old 15" rims, as long as they aren't rusty, would work with tubeless modern tires without an issue?

thanks again, sir..!!

Answer
Bill,

I suspect that the 9.00-15's are tubeless - and if they are, then there shouldn't be an issue.

But if they are tubetype, this is going create all kinds of problems.  You'll need to get a properly sized tube and a perhaps a flap, and Coker Tire ought to be able to supply those.