QuestionQUESTION: I want to add to my recent question I had battery checked it is good and I checked all fuses I also had the starter checked and it is good .
Thank you so much
Maria
ANSWER: Hello Maria,
You say you had the starter checked, but was power getting to the starter when the ignition was it the start position?
You did not tell me if you got the car going. Since you have the VATS bypassed and is not a concern for matching the key to the computer, here would be the cheap and easy fix (I think) to get the engine to run.
If it were my car, I would just change out the ECM and be done with it. Depending if you could get a used one from a junk yard. As I said before, the factory alarm was an option. 95% of these cars did not have the alarm. If you get a ECM out of another 93 Caddy and put it in (Very easy to do), you now have the Cadillac without the alarm.
Unfortunately though, I think for your application, you nee it only from a 93'. The reason is that was the same platform as 89,90, 91 and 92, however you have the North star and the others don't.
See, this is the reason I tell people to get the factory manual from Craigs, or EBAY.
The manual might show you extra wires going to the alarm module that nee to need to be cut that you are no longer using. I just don't know and it would show you where that module is. On the other had, you may find you have to do nothing.
Let me know. Should take car of your problem.
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QUESTION: well i stumbled upon an after market alarm/keyless entry system IN MY CAR!! I was looking around under the dash on drivers side and saw that the toggle switch that I thought bypassed the factory alarm was actually hooked up to 1. a small square plastic (resembled a pager from the 90's) it was zip tied behind my break pedal onto another part of my car I followed the wires and they lead me back under the dash just under the steering column to another box (this one about the size of one of those black converter boxes sold to convert regular tv's over to HD)I pulled the box out and it had an alrm companies logo on it!! the toggle switch was simply bypassing THIS alarm but my VATS was still active . i tested the power going to starter while someone else turned the ignition key and NO POWER!! I measured resistance in my keys pellet with ohm meter then went to radio scack wrote it down and before going to get resistors I 1st had to be sure this was the issue so i found the little white wire comingf out of steering column that send the signal to theft module that correct key is in ignition and cut them then I taped the wires one on each side of the pellet in my key and MY CAR STARTED!!! I guess the wires broke inside my column/ignition area , So I went and got the resistors etc...... CAR RUNS!! I have not removed that after market system I dont wanna mess with it and the company is out of business (of course) although ultimately I would like to do away with it
Thank you for your help
MaRIA
ANSWER: Hello,
I suppose I should have asked you how you knew the VATS was bypassed in the first place. That crap alarm install I dealt with every day for years. Jerks (drug dealers using an alarm store for a front) advertised "Don't be a victim." We were victims every time we had to repair their installs after their customer had their car stolen with their fine installs.
That toggle is the Valet (alarm turn off) switch. Located under the dash, the first place a thief goes as soon as the ignition lock is popped from its mounting (Doing no damage to it internally-you know, the part that these locksmith experts for the insurance companies determine the car was not stolen).
There is so much incompetence in alarm installation, because the installers have no clue as to how cars are stolen, nor do the insurance forensic experts that commonly do piss poor examination and then author a report in favor of the insurance company, putting the insured under a major investigation before the deny the theft claim.
Either way, the consumer pays for idiocy. There is just so much of it in the theft/alarm industry.
The consumer in your case pays for it in the end. I am sorry you id not know about that junk in the beginning and I would have had you cut it all out.
Even today, these shoddy installations are being done all the time giving people a false sence of security that they pay good money for. Dealers have this inferior stuff put on all the time, forcing the buyer of the car to purchase it, like KARR, Stargard, Prolock and other substandard crap in my opinion. Stargard and prolock are no more and they made their money on these rip off schemes preying on the consumer.
Any time you see the toggle mounted below the dash on an alarm system, you know you have been ripped off, and should show a warning of future problems. Dactory alarms have no way of disabling by a switch.
Glad it all worked out.
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QUESTION: well come to find out my boyfriend replaced the emergency override button with a toggle switch rather then another button therefore when someone wants to steal the car all they have to do is push this button and turn the key why on earth an emergency override button is installed in an alarm system I have no idea but it is and now it is a toggle switch in the booklet I see what you're talking about a toggle switch called a valet switch I don't see 1 anywhere in my car then I read more in the booklet that came with the stupid alarm system and it says not all alarm systems come with this valet toggle switch where did I get this book what? Good question I found it in the bottom of a bunch of paperwork I came along with the car when I bought it off a person a private party heaven forbid they tell me about the system when I was buying the car I think the only logical yet stupid reason anyone would put the system and the car is so they could have keyless entry other then that like you said it's purely idiotic and a rip off I wish I knew how to remove in this system without damaging or causing something to malfunction with my luck so now I have the factory alarm system and this great aftermarket alarm system going for me look at me when well at least I bypass the problem for now and I'm happy about that. I am using my phone to send this message and voice recognition please pardon any blunders in the text
AnswerHi,
Actually on your car, a key or the use of the ignition is not performed to steal your car with that style steering column. I have rebuilt thousands of them from theft. All one needs is a teenager that has been trained in jail, a screwdriver, 30 seconds breaking the left side of the steering column where all the locking mechanisms are located. You really should install a hidden ignition starter kill switch. Can copy instructions I wrote down for one of my readers last week if you would like. In other words with that alarm installation and no VATS, your car is insecure and old cars are stolen more commonly than new.
