QuestionQUESTION: I bought a 04 hyundai elantra and the driver door has been painted and replaced by an 01 hyundai door. The wiring for the 01 door only allowed the windows to work but NOT the pwr. locks or pwr. mirrors to work. I went to the local dealer and they happen to have a junked 05 hyundai in the back that i bought the door off and tried to use the wiring harness , but to no avail i still cant get the locks and mirrors to work. I got wiring diagram from dealer (they were nice enough to help me there). Ive been working on cars most of my life and i need help trying to figure out if i need the exact year harness or can i run couple of wires from the body wiring harness into the door to get things to work. I have got the pwr. mirrors to work but there are 3 wires that i seem to not be able to get right to make the mirrors to operate right. Ive got a D03 plugin type on the back of the operating buttons for the pwr. mirrors. Both the wiring harnesses that i have only have 7 wires,, Do I need the D04 wiring harness for the 04 hyundai?? Will that fix my pwr. lock problem too?? Or do i need to change the switches???
ANSWER: I can say that '04 Elantras used a different door harness than the '01 Elantras. The '05, however, uses the same harnesses as the '04, but the particular harness that's used an any particular car depends on the options that car has.
Also, the '01 had different actuators depending on whether the vehicle had keyless entry. You might start by swapping the door latch assemblies, using the one from the '05 instead of the '01 (and checking the power lock fuse). It's possible the actuator in the '01 door won't work with the system your car has.
If the above doesn't produce good results, your easiest solution will probably be to purchase a new door harness that's correct for your vehicle. The dealer will be able to look this up by vin# and get you the correct harness.
If you have a harness problem and wish to try to make the one you have work, it'll require some significant research on your part to determine whether that's possible. (I'm not sure what D03 and D04 indicate, so I'm not sure what you're asking there.)
You should be able to do most of the research at www.hmaservice.com. You'll need to register for a free account, and the site requires Internet Explorer. Under the ETM tab, you'll want to look at the schematics for the power locks, power mirrors, power windows, and courtesy lamps. You might also be interested in TSB 06-90-008, which pertains to a connector corrosion issue in 2001-2003 Elantras. Although it doesn't specifically refer to your car or even your problem, it may help you understand what's occurring with your power locks. Also, since the TSB is for '01-'03 models only, do not attempt to use this TSB as a guide for part numbers.
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QUESTION: I did have to switch the locking mech. from the 05 door to the 04 door and did find a bad fuse to. I got the power locks to work. Happy about that. Now I need to get a wire diagram for the power mirrors. I have signed on to the site you said, and i couldnt find the ETM tab. I have the plugin that is considered a D03 on a connector (7 wire) configurations that is on the back of the power mirror switch on the door. I need to know what color wire goes to each connector. I very much doubt that i can find the proper connector from salvage considering that most salvage places want to sell the whole door. The 01 Door came with an (8 wire) D04 plug. (The D in D03 or 04 stands for Door Harness connector 03 or 04). So i tore all the plug wires out of the connector from the wiring harness to plug into the back of the switch. The 05 wire harness has 7 wires for the pwr mirrors.
ANSWER: Once you've logged into www.hmaservice.com, click on the "Service Information" link. This should bring up the page with the tabs and the boxes for your model and year. Click on "ETM" and enter 2004 (or 2005) Elantra. Click on the "Body Electrical System" link in the left frame, and then "Power Mirrors" and "POWER OUTSIDE MIRRORS." If you have trouble getting anything useful to appear after the "Service Information" link, you may need to turn off your pop-up blocker. You'll also have problems at this point if you're not using Internet Explorer or you're using Mac. If you make it to the schematic and it won't display, you probably need to download Adobe SVG Viewer. There's a "Site Requirements" link on the home page that has a link for this download.
Looking at the '04 and '05 schematics, both use connector D03 for the mirrors, and both mirror switches are wired identically. (I didn't search the schematics to see what D04's purpose is.) Here's how the mirror switches are wired:
Pin 1 -- Brown or Brown/black -- feed from switch to up/down motor on both mirros
Pin 2 -- Orange -- feed from switch to common terminal of right mirror
Pin 3 -- Yellow -- power with ignition in "acc" or "on"
Pin 4 -- White -- feed from switch to left/right motor on right mirror
Pin 5 -- Pink -- feed from switch to left/right motor on left mirror
Pin 6 -- Orange -- feed from switch to common terminal on left mirror
Pin 7 -- Black -- ground.
Looking into the switch connector (or any female connector, for that matter) with the locking tab at the top, Pin 1 is the top left. Numbering continues to the right across the top row. At the end of the top row, numbering continues left to right in the second row, and so on.
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QUESTION: You mentioned this "Looking into the switch connector (or any female connector, for that matter) with the locking tab at the top, Pin 1 is the top left. Numbering continues to the right across the top row. At the end of the top row, numbering continues left to right in the second row, and so on."
I have a copy of the connector page from hyndai and it shows the numbers starting from right to left with the tab on top. Could you check to make sure the way you told me the numbers run is correct.
This is what my 7 pin shows.
2 tab 1
7 6 5 4 3
Thanks for all your help.
Mark
ANSWER: Actually, I think you have this correct. I had looked in a 1999 Elantra manual just for a quick reference to numbering standards. I looked in a newer manual today and it uses the standard you give. I think the manual I originally looked in was erroneous or they switched standards. Sorry about that.
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QUESTION: Ok,, this is whats going on!! I hook up the wires as describe and this is whats happening.
IF i got the switch to the left and move it to the left or right it doesnt do anything to either mirror. If i move it up it moves the right mirror out, move switch down moves the right mirror left.
Move switch to the right for right mirror operation gives me this: up and down moves correctly. moving switch to the left moves the driver mirror down, move switch to the right moves the driver mirror up.
I switched the orange wires to see if i had them backwards, this is what i got:
switch to driver side --push switch left moves driver mirror right, push switch right moves driver mirror left,, push down moves driver mirror left,, push down and moves driver mirror right.
Move selector switch to operate passenger mirror does this:
push left moves passenger mirror down,, push right moves passneger mirror up, up moves driver mirror up, and push down moves driver mirror down.
Its abit confusing for me but i was hoping giving you this info that im dealing with maybe you can help me figure it out.
Let me know if you can think of anything.
thanks again.
Mark
AnswerI suppose before I hurt my brain too much I'd like you to do the following:
1. Review the mirror motions again (in one wire configuration or the other; just tell me which you're using). Pay particular attention to whether the mirror moves diagonally.
2. Using the connector number configuration you referenced, tell me the wire colors in each position of the mirror switch connector.
3. Using the same number configuration, tell me the wire colors and positions at each of the mirror connectors.
4. Unplug the mirror switch and test to see which wire has power and which has ground. Refer to the wire by color.
Actually, prior to doing this, it might be a good idea to try the other mirror switch you have. The mirror switches haven't been the most reliable components, and I think it's possible you may have a bad switch. Usually, when there's a switch problem, vigorously working the switch will make it work correctly again.
Lastly, if this or any future answers get truncated, please start with a new question. This series is becoming quite long, and I fear we may reach the maximum number of allowable characters.
