Small Engines (Lawn Mowers, etc.): over filled oil continued, corespondence, throttle plate


Question
I tried to reply to your last help, but I got:
"Too many follow-ups, please ask a new question", here is your last reply:
**To Reset the Governor; Loosen the Governor Arm Bolt and Turn the Governor Shaft Clockwise Until it Stops. Using the Governor Arm Hold the Carburetor to Full Throttle. Now with the Shaft Full Clockwise and the Governor Arm and carburetor Held at Full Throttle, Tighten the Governor Arm Bolt. If the Engine Still Runs Full Throttle, then Reverse the Rotation of the Governor Shaft, but Still Hold the Carburetor at Full Throttle with the Governor Arm. If it Still Runs at Full Throttle, then Check the Internal Governor.**

John, thanks for your patience. Now i never disturbed the Governor, so should I try that adjustment, or might I make a good setting bad?

I m looking at the diagrams at that site and I cant find the governor. I found the spring governor 209 and spring governor idle 211 which are both attached to the brake 923. Although the diagram of the brake has a spring brake 922, but I only see two springs on the mower. Is what is attached to the other end of the springs the governor? And BTW what does the brake do? It is adjustable, I can move it, but the movement seams to do nothing. The movement does not change the tension on the springs. Well maybe it does, but just slightly. Is there an owners operation manual on line?

Answer
Hi PA:

No Worries. I Try to be Here as Often as I can and See to it that Everyone has a Correct Answer and a Unit that Operates Correctly Again. From Reading our Last Corespondence; <I just tried it again and it stalled again after 5 seconds. Someone suggested putting my hand over the carb during the 5 seconds to create vacuum to clear out the fuel jet and that worked! Except now it runs but the speed keeps varying fast and show. rapidly alternating fast-slow-fast-slow. That thing that comes out from the pulley wheel and is attached to two springs and to the throttle plate keeps moving back and forth opening and closing the throttle plate. If I hold it still then engine runs smooth and constant speed. HELP.

Also, someone else just told me that the oil was diluted with gas and should be replaced before even trying to start the mower. Is this true?

If I should, what viscosity? The mover label does not say.

Engine # 09s502 3707-B1
 
Answer:  Hi PA:

The Crankcase Oil becomes Contaminated if the Carburetor is Flooding the Engine, Not the Other Way Around. The Oil Used in Most Mowers is SAE30. I Use a Synthetic Oil of the SAE30 Viscosity. In Cold Climates these Engines Use SAE10-30 or SAE15-30 Viscosity Oil. For the "Engine Hunting/Surging" for a Correct Speed, you May Still have to Blow Out the Carburetor. Usually if the Oil is in the Carburetor, Blowing it Out with Compressed Air is the Only Way to Completely Remove All the Oil from Inside the Carburetor. The Other Cause for the "Hunting/Surging is the Governor. You can Set the Governor if you think it will Stop the "Hunting/Surging" Problem. The Following is an Instruction File I Made for Making this Adjustment. Any Input is Appreciated.  If you Removed/Loosened the Governor Arm from the Governor Shaft or Put the Linkage in  a Bind when the Carburetor was Removed, then Reset the Governor. **To Reset the Governor; Loosen the Governor Arm Bolt and Turn the Governor Shaft Clockwise Until it Stops. Using the Governor Arm Hold the Carburetor to Full Throttle. Now with the Shaft Full Clockwise and the Governor Arm and Carburetor Held at Full Throttle, Tighten the Governor Arm Bolt. If the Engine Still Runs Full Throttle, then Reverse the Rotation of the Governor Shaft, but Still Hold the Carburetor at Full Throttle with the Governor Arm. If it Still Runs at Full Throttle, then Check the Internal Governor.**>

1- I Try to remember to Include Instructions that May Correct the Problem. If you Feel or Think the Governor has Not been Moved or Slipped During Operation, then you Do Not have to Set the Governor. It is a Slightly Common Cause for the Engine Surging. That was Something for you to Check if you Cleaned the Carburetor. If you Tried Placing your Hand Over the Carburetor Intake with the Engine At Full Throttle a Couple of More Times and the Surging Did Not Stop, then the Carburetor Required Cleaning (Blowing out with Compressed Air should be Fine). 2- The Engine Brake Grabs the Flywheel when the Engine Stop Lever is Released. The Springs Engages the Brake and the cable End from the Lever is Attached to a Connection on the Engine Brake Assembly. The Coil Ground to Stop the Coil from Firing is Usually Located on this Bracket Alos. If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I am Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. Have a Happy Holiday Season and May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Be Safe and Happy. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

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Respectfully

John