Small Engines (Lawn Mowers, etc.): Recoil rope mechanism, recoil starter, recoil spring


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QUESTION: John,

I'm also one of the gang here @ All experts over in the electrical dept.

I have a "Simplicity" walk behind snow blower which is the Sno Away 9 HP commercial version. Great machine and extremely well built. My problem is the recoil spring in the pull starter doesn't pull the rope in any more. I took it off and found that in order to take it apart you need a special tool which if they make it, I don't have. So my question is: Even if I could get it apart could I get the spring if its broken which I assume it is or its been knocked out of positon some how. Or is it better to just buy the whole new part.  Everything else about it is fine. Its a shame they make it difficult to take apart and fix.

Bob

ANSWER: Hello Bob:

>>The Following is a Basic Horozontal Recoil Starter Repair Instruction File. Any Input/Suggestions are Appreciated. Remove the Starter Housing/Engine Cover. Remove the Old Rope (the Rope is Not Installed onto the Pulley Until AFTER the Spring and Pulley are Installed into the Housing. All will be explained later in these Instructions), Pulley and Spring from the Blower Housing. Clean the Housing. Now Take the New Spring and Locate the Housing Lock Hole that is Usually Near the Pull Handle Hole. Slip the New Spring Into this Hole and Lock the End Onto the Pulley. Now Lock the Pulley Into the Blower Housing. Turn the Pulley in the Same Direction that it would Turn During the Starting Process. The Spring will be Pulled Into the Blower Housing as you Turn the Pulley. When the Spring is Almost All the Way Into the Housing; Hold the End with Pliers and Make Sure it Catches in the Blower Housing Lock. Once the Spring is Locked Into the Housing, then Continue Turning the Pulley in the Same Direction that the Pulley would Turn if the Rope was Turning it. Once the Pulley will Turn No More, then Reverse Direction 1 or 2 Turns and Thread the New Rope Through the Hole in the Center of the Pulley and Out the Hole in the Blower Housing. Pull the Rope Through Until it is Tight Against the Pulley. Now Tie a Slip Knot in the Rope to Hold the Pulley in Place While the Handle is Attached to the Rope. Once the Handle is Attached, Release the Slip Knot and the Rope Should Retract Into the Housing. Reassemble the Blower Housing Onto the Engine. On Some Models you May have to Install the Rope Before you Lock the Pulley in Place. If So, there is a U in the Pulley that the Rope is Held in While Turning the Pulley to Tighten the Spring. These are for Most Recoil Starters. If these Instructions are Not for your Recoil Starter, then Send me the Model Numbers Off the Unit, Please. With these I can Locate the Proper Manual and Better Assist you.
>>Send me the Make, Model and Type or Spec Numbers Off the Engine, Please. With these I can Locate the Proper Manual and Better Assist you.
>>If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I Hope to be Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Be Safe and Happy. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

PS: I am Allowed to Answer 3 Questions a Day. If you See I am Maxxed Out, then Try Submitting your Question at or Just After 8pm EST (US). My New Day Starts then. Follow Up Questions are Received Anytime. Comments and Ratings are Greatly Appreciated. Thanks.

Respectfully

John

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QUESTION: John,

Unfortunately that didn't apply to my particular engine. I should have given this to you the first time. The model # of  the engine is hmsk90 and the part number is 590672. And thats the thing, they don't list the individual parts that make up the recoil starter mechanism. Its listed as one whole part which leads me to believe that short of the cord breaking you have to buy the entire mechanism if any thing else breaks on it like the spring in my case. But maybe you know something I don't.

Bob

Answer
Hello Again Bob:

>>You have the Pressed "Spring Pin" that Hold the Plastic Rope Pulley and Other Components Together.
>>You can View a Breakdown of this Recoil Starter and Order Parts from this Site Addy; http://www.emerichsales.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/91/TecumsehPowerCompany.aspx and Select Starter Parts. Now Select Recoil Starters. Now Select RS-590672.
>>If you "Punch Out" the Pressed "Spring Pin" (the "Spring Pin" can be Reused), you will have Access to the Spring and Tangs/Dogs and can Usually get the Replacement Parts from your Local Small Engine Service Center or Order them from the Site I Listed.
>>For this Model Recoil Starter the Plastic Pulley and Spring are an Assembly.
>>As Always, If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem,  I Hope to be Here if You Require More Assistance. Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Be Safe and Happy. Thanks.

Good Luck

Respectfully

John

PS: I am Allowed to Answer 3 Questions a Day. If you See I am Maxxed Out, then Try Submitting your Question at or Just After 8pm EST (US). My New Day Starts then. Follow Up Questions are Received Anytime. Comments and Ratings are Greatly Appreciated. Thanks.

Respectfully

John